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abstrait

If you want to get an idea of basic online First 235 sale activity, the first resource (besides here) has to be Yachtworld. While it's surely not comprehensive as there are many other sources online and off, it's a good place to start.

A Yachtworld search usually yields a handful of F235, most in the US while a few filter in from overseas.

Link: YachtWorld's Beneteau F235 Sale Lineup

artkey · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:52 am Post subject:

The asking prices are about double in Europe ($US) than in the US.
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abstrait · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject:

mike · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject:

logs · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:29 am Post subject:

Deggz · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: Aussie prices

Just for interest sake, Shindig cost me AUS$23,500 (1 thousand bucks a foot). The owner had set an asking price of $28,000...

Of course these prices are in Australian Roubles...the exchange rate is about US$0.80 at the moment, the strongest it's been for some time. That makes Shindig's price approx US$18,800. Not quite as expensive as the European boats but getting there. We just don't have the market volume for yachts and second hand boats are holding or increasing in value at present, at least out on the east coast - I'm not sure of the situation over in Logs part of the world.
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NELSON BAY
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abstrait · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject:

The road to the dream EU purchase of a US boat can be a dream with minor potholes or a MONSTER PIT OF HELL. In the years this thing has been active, I've seen both. Luckily, it seems we have some GREAT success stories recently. And we had one horror story that still has yet to be surpassed... Luckily, the boat had a happy ending but the poor chap overseas didnt see the best of that one.
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Deggz · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:

I think I've been extremely lucky with my purchase Kelly, similar boats in Oz are much more expensive and there just isn't anything that comes close to the quality in design and build - not to mention the finesse of the F235 on the second hand market over here. The closest thing in the new market is a Beneteau First 25.7 - but we're talking big dollars!

For some reason Australia, home of many great dinghy designs such as the 18footers, Northbridge Seniors, etc (I don't include any Bethwaite designs like the 49er in the great category) has a high proportion of ugly, slow, small yacht designs... Go figure. There just aren't any new locally produced boats coming on the market either...at least in the cruiser racer market for boats less than 30ft. Labour prices are prohibitively expensive here so we'll probably see something coming out of China soon I guess, but the trend seems to be toward bigger and more expensive boats at the luxury end of the market... A worldwide trend I'm sure. It keeps second hand prices high at our end of the scale (which is great for the seller) .

So I'm one extremely happy customer and I'm sure if I ever take leave of my senses and sell Shindig I'll fetch a good price for her! The competition was hot when I bought the boat, I was lucky to get there first.
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Shindig | EU#69
60 Galoola Drive
NELSON BAY
NSW 2315 Australia
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abstrait · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject:

I totally agree. Actually, this boat is so much better made than many others in this size range. Not to say there arent other great boats, or boats I might like to own, but this boat is a unique combination of quality and build that's rare. Used values in the US are a great deal. The only problem here is when the price creeps up into the range that might be the beginning of a size up, a size that might better serve some buyers. But man, I cant think of many boats Ive had as much fun sailing that offer THIS MUCH BOAT for so little, and with a build and style that make it extremely unique. Really glad you and ole Logs had great results and are totally happy with the decision.
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logs · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject:

just to get my 2 bobs worth in.
Windjana is currently valued at A$46K, approx US$37K. I did not pay that much (in total including purchase, transport, dock fees etc) although it was quite a bit higher than what Deggz paid. The insurance value is based on what else is around and the values assigned to those yachts. There are very few yachts 28' and under here in Perth that are less than 20 years old and most are more than that and few are in such good condition. When we purchased Windjana we were looking all over Oz for a yacht as we had been quite disappointed by what was available locally. Once we got to start looking all over Oz, it was only a small step to look globally. Shipping costs from the US were not that much higher than the cost of bring a yacht from the east coast.

I was looking at a locally (Adelaide) made yacht (cruiser/racer) from Nolex which looked interesting, but at A$60K for the starting price it still looks like I got a bargain with Windjana. For A$60K I could have got a 10 year old H****r :(

This site was a major reason behind our decision to purchase a F235, mainly for the help and support available and for the assistance in climbing ceilingwards far more than once a month, excuse the cross-thread reference <vbg>
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audeojude · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject:

I could see an awesome European summer sailing vacation on your f235 just before selling.

do the float on float off ship thing from here to europe and the sail around the med for a few months.

Have a seller already lined up over there before you ever go.

say it costs you 4000 to 6000 to transport the boat .. you should still be able to net 15000 to 20000 or so from the sale of the boat.. :) big chunk torward the next bigger boat.
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Jake · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:46 am Post subject:

audeojude · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject:

shit!!!!

i swear i was reading one of the sail magazines a couple months ago that talked about it starting around 4 or 5 grand..

oh well so much for that nifty idea
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Jake · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject:

I recently got asked to remove the teak bow sprit from a Formosa style ketch because the shipping was going to be $6K cheaper with the sprit in the salon instead of on the bow.
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audeojude · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject:

how was it being shipped? rig down or on a float on of ship with rig up?
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Granny · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:42 am Post subject:

One factor often forgotten is the levying of VAT on a yacht imported into Europe. In the UK that is20%.
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