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mccalack First Mate
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 148 Location: Eden Isle Marina, AR
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abstrait Site Owner & Administrator
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 7537 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC
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Frodo I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Which one of us is "Izzy06"? _________________ ~Frodo
Crescent Yacht Club
4-Play...for now, Crush...(when we get the graphics changed) it'll go with Squirt, our sailing dinghy!
1988, #129 Wing Keel
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nquigley Skipper
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 1844 Location: Concord YC, Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Current high bidder is an autoengine rebuilder - may be after the keel too? There may be LOTS of F235 parts that current F235 owners might need - they should perhaps email whoever is the highest bidder onj the last day of the auction to offer to buy certain bits he may not want. _________________ Neil Quigley
Ericson 32-2 'Molto Bene'
Knoxville, TN
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if it would be worth bidding on..
say i bid on it.. and got it for 200 dollars
then add in 282 dollars to load it on my trailer.
then add in 300 dollars in gas to go get it.. + food etc.... and you have a7882 dollar + boat.. Lots of dings there... you could probably resell the pulpit and push pits .. but they look gone or damaged. there are some stantions.. the boom is good.. It might be worth it if it was next door. allso the 282 loading fee kinda bites... little excessive. _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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looks like the st winches are gone ... someone has already been picking over this boat.. bet most of the blocks and tackle are gone also. _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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Jon First 235 Crazy
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 6813 Location: lake ontario
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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it's a 87 it did not come with selftailing winches _________________ Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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no..?
hmmm ...
wonder why my 87 has them?
regardless if you look at the pictures the only winch you can see is the on cabin top one.. the mast is laid down and goes through the space the port one should be in. _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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Pat Turner 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Brookville Lake, Ind.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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My 87 has the ST's too _________________ Pat Turner
Windseeker - Hull #46
'87 Wing Keel |
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Jon First 235 Crazy
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 6813 Location: lake ontario
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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the only winch I can't see is the starboard cabintop, & that's only because of the shadow. I would guess that if you have a early 235 with selftailers they were add on's by previous owners. wish I had them, west marine wants $599 each for the 16 Lewmar's _________________ Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex
Lake Ontario NY |
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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ha! jonster is correct.. the winches are there and they don't look like they are self tailers.....
damn... this is going to swell his head....
lol oh well
a little more can't hurt to much..
maybe the ST winches were a upgrade option.. i know that the original owner of sea puppy would have bought all the upgrades he could have... he was serious racing guy. If it was a performance enhancement he would have gotten it. _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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Jon First 235 Crazy
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 6813 Location: lake ontario
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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audeojude wrote: | damn... this is going to swell his head....
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naw it's gonna take more than exchanging banter with you to do that.......heh _________________ Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex
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abstrait Site Owner & Administrator
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 7537 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Ive seen those ST winches spread over all the years but it seems they were an option at times. Every now and then, you see something like an 89 with regular winches even though most seemed to have the ST. They are definitely a nice upgrade over the regular winches, especially if you singlehand. _________________ <font face="century gothic" size="1">Kelly Holsten � <i>abstrait</i>
'89 "clear" WK | Hull #327
www.beneteau235.com</font><br><br> |
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I absolutly love my ST winches... they are very nice for single handing.
scott _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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JDF Tactician
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 868 Location: Evanston, IL
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: winches |
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I shopped and shopped while saving my pennies. The lowest price I found was pyacht.com who will sell you Lewmar 16STs for $375, Harken STs for $385.
A pair of Lewmars were delivered last week. Now can anybody tell me how to get those old Barlows off of there? They don't have have split retaining ring like the Lewmars. _________________ Jeannette
Hot Flash
87 fin #64
Lake Michigan @ Chicago |
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Frodo I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Back to the matter at hand.
I agree with the Loon. The boat is not beyond repair. With a lot of elbow grease, and about $2500-3500, it would be a shiny new(ish) looking toy for the right person. My biggest concern would be the Structural integrity of the hull. If she's solid, she's worth something. If she can be had for less than $1000, I think she'd be worth it. Especially if you're interested in making a vehichle like the soon be relaunched Pi-Zilla.
All that said, I'm not bidding on her. _________________ ~Frodo
Crescent Yacht Club
4-Play...for now, Crush...(when we get the graphics changed) it'll go with Squirt, our sailing dinghy!
1988, #129 Wing Keel
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abstrait Site Owner & Administrator
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 7537 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Unless you own your own marina in your back yard with tools galore and TIME on your hands to the Nth degree, this will require a new title:
The Project that Killed My Marriage, Sanity, and Pocketbook
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Major TJ Kong is my Hero!
LAUNCH DATE: The 12th of Never! _________________ <font face="century gothic" size="1">Kelly Holsten � <i>abstrait</i>
'89 "clear" WK | Hull #327
www.beneteau235.com</font><br><br> |
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Jon First 235 Crazy
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 6813 Location: lake ontario
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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abstrait wrote: | Unless you own your own marina in your back yard with tools galore and TIME on your hands to the Nth degree, this will require a new title:
The Project that Killed My Marriage, Sanity, and Pocketbook
or....
Major TJ Kong is my Hero!
LAUNCH DATE: The 12th of Never! |
I can't believe you would say such a thing. anything fiberglass is repairable. _________________ Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex
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abstrait Site Owner & Administrator
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 7537 Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Jon wrote: | ... anything fiberglass is repairable. |
Really? DAlm, Cheech...you learn somethin' new every day! SOLD!
...And after the buyer adds in the tow, trailer, hours, mast, rigging, sails, sanding, fairing, hull paint, bottom paint, rudder parts, battery, engine, and new interior, he'll be in F235 in Yachtworld territory. But hey, it sounds good from afar and sure makes for good reading in a forum at 10am.
If you hire ANYONE for any part of this mission, be prepared for a bank loan. heh... This is for the POOR DIY LOON with T&T (Tools & TIME). Dont fool yourself into thinking you's gonna save massive ducats, though. Prepare for Wallet Extraction and Headache (drinking not optional). _________________ <font face="century gothic" size="1">Kelly Holsten � <i>abstrait</i>
'89 "clear" WK | Hull #327
www.beneteau235.com</font><br><br> |
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Frodo I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Assuming you have said "T&T", New mast, Rigging, One of those Kick-up rudders, Sails (although there are two inside that are good, and the other two may be repairable), some bottom paint, and Exterior hardware may run you $3k plus or minus (depending on the sails). Me no Savvy-Savvy the exterior paint, so $?.
As to the Towing/Trailer...I have offered my trailer to use up here, so has Jon, I would hope that one of you Southerners would do the same for a F235 Newbie. The boat isn't huge, it will fit comfortably in a driveway, or better yet in a Barn where it could be worked on.
Now the interior is a different story. As there are no pics, I Imagine the worst. But consider...removing the Wood is not hard (I did some removal to get the Headliner off in 4-Play), Re-finishing may go either way, If the Head and Galley are intact, and the cushions are washable...She could be sailable for less than you think.
The guy who just bought my mother's Privateer 35 is a 22 year old Painter. He has skills, but not much Dough. He plans on getting her sailable next spring (Caulk, and a little electrical work), making the 1000+ mile trip to Michigan (yes 1000+ miles, if you're sailing), and living on the boat while he does a two year complete rehab. He'll have his dream boat, and show a financial gain at the end of that time.
The person who buys this boat will have a much less valuable boat at the end, but it won't take more than a couple of months to do a complete re-hab.
So I repeat...If this is the type of boat that you REALLY, REALLY want, and you have the time, This boat can be saved. Massive Ducat saved?...maybe not, but an affordable project for the right person?...Absolutely.
But what do I know? _________________ ~Frodo
Crescent Yacht Club
4-Play...for now, Crush...(when we get the graphics changed) it'll go with Squirt, our sailing dinghy!
1988, #129 Wing Keel
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Jon First 235 Crazy
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 6813 Location: lake ontario
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Frodo wrote: | But what do I know? |
more than the av-er-age bear boo boo! _________________ Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex
Lake Ontario NY |
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Frodo I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Yogi! _________________ ~Frodo
Crescent Yacht Club
4-Play...for now, Crush...(when we get the graphics changed) it'll go with Squirt, our sailing dinghy!
1988, #129 Wing Keel
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Pat Turner 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Brookville Lake, Ind.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Buy the boat and strip the inside. Make it a strickly race boat. Vickie wouldn't go along with the idea. _________________ Pat Turner
Windseeker - Hull #46
'87 Wing Keel |
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nquigley Skipper
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 1844 Location: Concord YC, Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Bids are flying in - it's up to a whopping $177.50 now - that's about half the cost of just one of the stern rails!
The auction is ending on Saturday morning (7AM PDT).
This autorebuilder guy is keeping just ahead of new bidders - I wonder what his top dollar amount is???
OK - what do you all guess it'll finally sell for?
My guess is $890 _________________ Neil Quigley
Ericson 32-2 'Molto Bene'
Knoxville, TN
(ex - F235 #252 'Traveler')
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Jon First 235 Crazy
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 6813 Location: lake ontario
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: |
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nquigley wrote: | Bids are flying in - it's up to a whopping $177.50 now - that's about half the cost of just one of the stern rails!
The auction is ending on Saturday morning (7AM PDT).
This autorebuilder guy is keeping just ahead of new bidders - I wonder what his top dollar amount is??? |
bid & find out!!! _________________ Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex
Lake Ontario NY |
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