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Fixer upper -- $2,900

 
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mark_swart
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Fixer upper -- $2,900 Reply with quote

http://www.laniermarine.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=02713129X11K16K2010J1I02I13JPMQ3441R0&veh=1918231

Saw this listed by Lanier Marine Liquidators -- 88 wing keel, Florida boat, no engine or trailer or mention of sails.
It's worth following the link just to see the most barnacled-over bottom in the history of boats.
Interior looks to be a shambles but I'm sure after you took care of the headliner it would make a world of difference!
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ENJ62
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick Someone call Brandon he may want to get back in to a F235. A very sad case but if it can be had cheaper, it would make a great parts boat or fixer upper.
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david
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaaaa, NOOOOO! I sure hope it doesnt get picked over for parts and scrapped.

2900 seems to me a steal. It looks as though elbow grease alone could double it's worth.
If I lived nearby I would buy it for sure.
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jackdaw
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Jackdaw wasn't making full use of her trailer right now.......
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With 15 acres of idle boats, I am sure you could convince them to wait till the spring if they had your money. Problem is what is under all those barnacles.

They have a Catalina 22 project boat with a fin. Install the fin with a lead bulb & get rid of my wing.

I think the interior wood looks better than the fin that sold over $7K. With elbow grease, you would have a new boat.

Ahhhh - what to do with our spare time.
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abstrait
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's 100 less than I got my boat for and I had an engine. Shows what you could do before this idiotic site came into existence. heh...

Actually, I have to agree with David here, especially if the sails and rigging can be found. I'm sure they would include the motor for a bit more which might be worth it if in salvageable condition.

Everything else is just a serious pressure washing and scraping away from not that bad. Every clown in here will have to deal with the liner, and that's already half down.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abstrait wrote:
That's 100 less than I got my boat for and I had an engine. Shows what you could do before this idiotic site came into existence. heh...
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That's right Kelly. I blame YOU for the inflated values of our little boats. ;^)

I think there is something magical about that leading TWO. Almost seems like an impulse purchase. Yea right....

But that is only $1100 more than I paid for Jackdaw, and she came with a trailer, two motors, and 5 sails. If you net out the money I made from the sale of the 9.9HP, spin, pole, and genny, then that's now pretty close. I think I am having euphoric recall. I remember being covered with the black dust, and saying 'never again....'

OH - A look at the pictures shows:
A least ONE sail
Rudder in inside
NO stove
NO sink
Head in place
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is, bottom jobs and headliners are WHENs, not IFs. And really sails are too. I think that boat is definitely worth fixing.
Used and usable small outboards also pop up on craigslist or wherever for under $500.
If you are doing your own work, for under $6K and a winter's worth of piddling and elbow grease you could probably have her looking good and ready to sail this spring.
If I was closer I'd be very tempted. I have a 285 but have been thinking more and more about the smaller sister because we are probably going to be moving inland in a few years.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark_swart wrote:
Thing is, bottom jobs and headliners are WHENs, not IFs. And really sails are too. I think that boat is definitely worth fixing.

Don't get me wrong... I think it is a superb opportunity for someone to get in on the 235 party for cheap, if they are willing to roll up their sleeves and do some work.

Just maybe not me, even though the prospect of bring another back to life sounds fun. Too many Kestrel projects!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm still looking at winter's worth of small projects on my boat too, don't know why I was looking at other fixer uppers either!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I miss having a boat in my driveway to piddle with. This boat interests me. I think I will check it out. I wonder how bad they want rid of it.....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad Leslie wrote:
I miss having a boat in my driveway to piddle with. This boat interests me. I think I will check it out. I wonder how bad they want rid of it.....


I dare you.
I DOUBLE DOG DARE you to.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackdaw wrote:
Brad Leslie wrote:
I miss having a boat in my driveway to piddle with. This boat interests me. I think I will check it out. I wonder how bad they want rid of it.....


I dare you.
I DOUBLE DOG DARE you to.


Really, I have been looking for something to keep on Cave Run Lake. My boat is 6 hours away on Ky Lake and I cant just go for the day.

I also miss the club races on Cave Run. I was looking for something in this range but never thought about being able to replace the ole 235. I will check it out. I figured I have to settle for a flying scott or similar daysailer.

I will see where this goes.......
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad Leslie wrote:


Really, I have been looking for something to keep on Cave Run Lake. My boat is 6 hours away on Ky Lake and I cant just go for the day.


That's the ticket. Kestrel will be living 3 hours away from Minneapolis. Great sailing location but a honest road trip.

Jackdaw is totally on the ready; you could hit her with a golf ball driven from Pia's back yard.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read a few reviews about this brokerage. I am pretty skeptical by nature, but now I am more so. Still, I may drive down in the next couple of weeks to see if it can be made ship shape again. ....proabably a fools erand!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad -- if you make it down there I'd love to hear about it. And if you see any trailers loitering around there that might fit a 285 wing, I'd be interested in that too : ) !!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark_swart wrote:
Brad -- if you make it down there I'd love to hear about it. And if you see any trailers loitering around there that might fit a 285 wing, I'd be interested in that too : ) !!
Mark

I may go look at this guys lot on the 18th or 19th. I have to fly down to Miami and drive back so I may go through Atlanta just to have a look.
The barnacle encrusted 235 is gone however, they said it went to Austrailia??? seams unlikely, but thats what he said.
They have a J24 they would like to sell bad, at least that's what he said......
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: HaHa Reply with quote

I would have been all over that!!!! LOL! I'm refitting a Starwind 223 at the moment that I picked up in NJ. Hope everyone has happy holidays!! I miss the forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: We took the plunge Reply with quote

After seeing this string of posts I had to comment. My wife and I are the lucky souls that purchased this boat. I have to tell you it cleaned up really nice. It had 3 sails with it (main, Genoa and jib). The structure is in good shape, and we have had it out a few times since we bought it.

It will be a work in progress on the interior (as you would expect, we ripped the liners out), but look forward to taking a lot of the great suggestions made on the forums to getting the boat back in shape!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations, I hope the boat works great for you. Good luck with the refit.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: We took the plunge Reply with quote

PAULB wrote:
(as you would expect, we ripped the liners out), but look forward to taking a lot of the great suggestions made on the forums to getting the boat back in shape!



hope you didn't toss them, they will be very helpful to use as patterns....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: We took the plunge Reply with quote

PAULB wrote:
After seeing this string of posts I had to comment. My wife and I are the lucky souls that purchased this boat.


Congratulations! Hope to see a big initial boat post with lots of pictures!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on the great find, Paul! Paul DID get a great deal with Hull 243, now on Lake Norman outside of Charlotte, NC. At one point, there were nearly 12 First 235 on Lake Norman though now a fraction of that number.

See 243 below, back on the water, albeit fresh this time around. Paul's next big upgrade needs to be a new First 235 main for that beast!




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