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BLACKSHEEP
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk,
I only have recieved one e-mail from you via ebay. You can e-mail me or call me here is my info.

jgoslee@netset.com

phone# 614-332-4429
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Dirk
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the info!
Do they international shipping or just delivery to the docks ? (Baltimore Id say)
Thank you for all the help
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, it is both sad and exciting this F235 is heading across the pond for a new home.

Dirk, I do hope you stay with us and keep us updated on the adventures of your F235.

Jon, I'm sorry that the F235 didn't work out for you. I hope you stick around and let us know about your boating ventures.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk wrote:
Do they international shipping or just delivery to the docks ? (Baltimore Id say)

I would just give them a call they may be able to coordinate a overseas delivery I am not sure, but thecould at least get it to NYC or New Jersey for shipment.
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BLACKSHEEP
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent out the info to Dirk I will keep everyone posted on the steps that it takes to get the boat to Dirk. Thanks for everyones help, this site is one of the best on the net! GREAT TOOL!
thanks.
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Dirk
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

same for me!! of course I will stick to this forum, keep eryone informed ad will spread it among German sailors. Lets build up the American-German 235sailors frienship!!

BLACKSHEEP wrote:
I sent out the info to Dirk I will keep everyone posted on the steps that it takes to get the boat to Dirk. Thanks for everyones help, this site is one of the best on the net! GREAT TOOL!
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Dirk
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Goslee,

do you have info on the quote (3.000$) the guy from Spain had for shipping?
Thank you

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called a couple of diffirent out fits out of Sundusky, OH. I have spoke with so many. Go to yellow pages dot com it is not that big of a boat to transport. I think the # Jon gave you is a great leadas well. I will call them for you if you would like.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk,
What port do you want the boat shipped to? Have you made any calls on your end? I have called several and they are getting back to me. I don't have enough info on you to be any help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk,
It is pretty easy, you need to call this guy and he will tell you what you need to do.
ATI USA Forwarder
Contact: Racardo
Phone# 908-351-3661

They need to talk to you, before the ball gets rolling. It seems that is the case with everyone I have talked with. They want to speak with you not me. If I had more info I would be more help.
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Dirk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Goslee,

would be great If you can tell me theSWIFT Code of your bank, it will make transfer more smoothly an safer, because there can be no misunderstandings that the right bank gets the money.
To save transfer fees I could tranfer the whole amount in one deal, what do you think? I imagine I can trust you :-)

Is the boat in or out of the water? will contact some shipping companies today, also the one Jon told us.

Dirk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon
I have just transfered 1.000$ via PayPal, never worked with it so I hope it works...

Dirk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some advice to ye olde Dirk and Blacksheep: Although it's flattering to see the forum used with such trust, I would problaby continue most of the specifics of the boat deal via email.

Hope it works out. Some kudos go to ole Blacksheep for attempting an overseas deal as it's not always the easiest to execute from this end, surely far more complicated than someone just taking the boat off one's hands as is customary with most deals.

Dirk, you're going to have to jump through some hoops to get this done. As for the trailer, there have been some leads here and there but accomplishing this from overseas is going to be tough. There is always the option of the cradle for shipping. You need to talk to the shipping co about the details. Regardless, it's going to be some work getting this whole deal executed. A trailer might be cheaper here than in EU as well.

Would be interesting to document so keep us informed on the progress. WE have one boat documented in the directory that was shipped from the US to EU (hull #133, now in DEN).

kh
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelly, whre can I find The link on this boat that was shipped to EU?
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Dirk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, didnt mean to misuse the forum for deal internas, but it seemed some emails to Jon Blacksheep have been missed..will use also telephone from now on :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk wrote:
sorry, didnt mean to misuse the forum for deal internas

No problem! I dont think you are misusing the forum at all. I was just thinking more on the lines of specifics you might want to keep between the two of you that might be better served in email or phone calls.

As for the link to the page, it's the F235 Directory - look for hull #133 in US and EU sections. Dont know of any way to contact the owner - his name is Svend Madsen (in DEN).

http://beneteau235.com/f235_database.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this guy Svend Madsen :-)

via email... he sold his boat at an attractive price som months ago, not to me :-(
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk wrote:
I know this guy Svend Madsen

Well, there you go! I would contact him on the best way to accomplish this transaction as he must surely know the pros and cons of the various options he used.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichivers
still got the line on the trailer? I have now one quote for transportationwithout trailer... its horrable. Will phone on monday the two links Jon and Blacksheep gave , but pls let me know if your trailer is available.

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Ichivers
would be -of course- interested in the trailer, if YOU dont want to have it.

Best regards
Dirk


I'm going to hold onto it for a bit incase I can't get a boat with a trailer. Are you really in Germany? How much does it cost to bring a boat over there?

I will let you know in the next couple of weeks though.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Dirk get a hold of me. Reply with quote

Dirk,
I have some info on shipping for you please get a hold of me. My e-mail is jgoslee@netset1.com get a hold of me.
Thanks,
jon
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk,
I don't know if you are getting my e-mails, I am e-mailing you through ebay. I don't know why their would be a problem. My last e-mail was about me transporting the boat from here to Maryland for you. Keep me posted.
jon
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirk wrote:
Ichivers
still got the line on the trailer? I have now one quote for transportationwithout trailer... its horrable. Will phone on monday the two links Jon and Blacksheep gave , but pls let me know if your trailer is available.

lchivers wrote:
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Ichivers
would be -of course- interested in the trailer, if YOU dont want to have it.

Best regards
Dirk


I'm going to hold onto it for a bit incase I can't get a boat with a trailer. Are you really in Germany? How much does it cost to bring a boat over there?

I will let you know in the next couple of weeks though.


Hi Dirk, I replied to your message that you sent about the trailer. Let me know.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long should I wait to get paid before a deal goes sour? I have e-mailed over a half of dozen trailer manufactors to the winning bidder and made over a 2 dozen phone calls for transport for him. At this point I feel like I have my hands tied. I have been asked to order a trailer for the boat I sold, but I have not been paid for the boat yet. It has been 6 weeks and still no movement of the boat.
I also thought the boat would have been moved, so I could have rented the dock it is sitting at for $1200 for the rest of the season. The sad part is the boat is just sitting because no one owns it at this point. What should I do?
The trailer company says it takes 6 weeks to build a trailer that is pushing it towards the end of the season. I just don't want the boat sitting there come OCT.
I have had many interested in the boat since the end of the auction but have turned them away because, I have a deposit on the boat.

HELP! How long should one wait before a deal is considered sour when you have a persons deposit? HELP!

Should I move the boat and use it even with a deposit on it?

I could have rented the slip the boat is at now for $1200 and paid $875 at lake where the boat would have worked.

sorry for such the long post but what is a guy to do? I just want to do what is right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Default Reply with quote

The terms on the e-bay listing are clear, "full payment in 7 days".

It seems you have bent over backwards trying to get the deal done, If it were me I would send back the money less any expenses and move on!

If the guy wasn't intelligent enough to look into shipping before bidding, I don't think he is intelligent enough to get the deal done. He didn't even have a clue as to how much it would cost!

Of course I also am interested in the boat so I have an alterior motive :-)

Please pm me if you decide to move on.

Gary
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: How much do you think it would cost to ship it to SF? Reply with quote

I am looking for a F235 but I think it would cost a ton to ship this boat to The City. Do you have any idea what type of charges I would be looking at?

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