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Brandon Snider Navigator
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 484 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: 285 for $3,200 on ebay! |
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Check it out! She was on craigslist for $4,000. No mast or sails but the boat looks to be in good shape. I guess the rig went over the side and they cut it away with the sails attached? Thats a shame, if thats what happened maybe they could have salvaged some of the rig or sails, if they wern't damaged. I'd check the chain plates real well.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-Beneteau-First-285-without-mast-and-sails_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ140339659124 _________________ Brandon Snider
Former Hull # 76 "Pi"
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mike Graduated to First 285
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 6252 Location: Chesapeake Bay (Bodkin Creek, MD)
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: 285 for $3,200 on ebay! |
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man if what's left isn't afu that's some deal. still a survey and personal visit would be mandatory.
i wonder what went so wrong. _________________ Mike Hayden
'89 F285 WK, Hull #127 s/v Enchanté
'89 F235 WK, Hull #253 s/v Windependent my ex |
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alisdairs 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1251 Location: South River, Chesapeake Bay, MD
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm 'watching' and my wife is freaking out thinking I'm going to bid on it...!! _________________ 'Highland Fling'
1997 Oceanis 281
South River, Edgewater, MD
Former owner 'Atlantic Reach'
1989~WK~#276 |
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mike Graduated to First 285
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 6252 Location: Chesapeake Bay (Bodkin Creek, MD)
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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alisdairs wrote: | I'm 'watching' and my wife is freaking out thinking I'm going to bid on it...!! |
it's tempting. you could probably part it out for more than that. think of the spare parts i could have! _________________ Mike Hayden
'89 F285 WK, Hull #127 s/v Enchanté
'89 F235 WK, Hull #253 s/v Windependent my ex |
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alisdairs 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1251 Location: South River, Chesapeake Bay, MD
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I've e-mailed the guy to see if I could get it surveyed, or if he would accept an offer, subject to survey - waiting to hear back. I did find a Boat US surveyor in the same town...!
I could buy it now with what I have in savings, then over the winter sell the F235 to cover the cost of the rig, sails, etc..
See, I have it all worked out !! _________________ 'Highland Fling'
1997 Oceanis 281
South River, Edgewater, MD
Former owner 'Atlantic Reach'
1989~WK~#276 |
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alisdairs 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1251 Location: South River, Chesapeake Bay, MD
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Boat went for $3,250 in the end. I didn't bid as I couldn't verify the cost of survey or transport in the time allowed so there were just too many uncertainties.
I did work out that new mast, sails, rigging, etc was going to be in the region of $10K so someone got themselves a good deal.
Al. _________________ 'Highland Fling'
1997 Oceanis 281
South River, Edgewater, MD
Former owner 'Atlantic Reach'
1989~WK~#276 |
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Brad Leslie 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 1088 Location: Rappahannock River/Middle Chesapeake
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think it was for the best. There were too many unkowns.
There will be plenty of other boats;) _________________ Brad Leslie
89 Wing #251, Gigi
PO of Grip Fast, 87 Fin #92
PO of Sun King, 89 F285, #166
PO of Sojorn, 93 F210, #76
04 361, Grip Fast |
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mike Graduated to First 285
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 6252 Location: Chesapeake Bay (Bodkin Creek, MD)
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, something isn't being told.
too many loose ends and too few answers. _________________ Mike Hayden
'89 F285 WK, Hull #127 s/v Enchanté
'89 F235 WK, Hull #253 s/v Windependent my ex |
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macroule Navigator
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 340 Location: Long Island Sound, Westport, CT.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same feeling. The boat is close to me and I was tempted,
but I need a shallow draft for my mooring and a fin wasn't going to work for my Bahamas plan. IF the owner "loved" his 285 so much why didn't he just shop around for a used rig? Certainly the best way to get back at it. I guess a dis-mast could be traumatic and cause some to want to take a break from sailing perhaps?
Mysteries of Ebay...could be a tv show? _________________ Mark
Solaris - 1988 F285 WK, Hull#95
(Fin Noir - 1987 F235 Fin, Hull#022, my Ex.) |
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Brad Leslie 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 1088 Location: Rappahannock River/Middle Chesapeake
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Checking this boat out and looking at others recently has pushed me over the edge and I am now looking for a larger boat. I am a little tired of bumbing my head.
We are going to Grip Fast tomorrow morning to spend the weekend and think it over, but we have pretty much decided to sell and move up this fall. There are three boats I am going to look at over the next few weeks for a start. Who knows where this will end, but there are some very nice boats for sale now. _________________ Brad Leslie
89 Wing #251, Gigi
PO of Grip Fast, 87 Fin #92
PO of Sun King, 89 F285, #166
PO of Sojorn, 93 F210, #76
04 361, Grip Fast |
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nquigley Skipper
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 1844 Location: Concord YC, Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Brad Leslie wrote: | Checking this boat out and looking at others recently has pushed me over the edge and I am now looking for a larger boat. I am a little tired of bumbing my head.
We are going to Grip Fast tomorrow morning to spend the weekend and think it over, but we have pretty much decided to sell and move up this fall. There are three boats I am going to look at over the next few weeks for a start. Who knows where this will end, but there are some very nice boats for sale now. |
What size range are you thinking about? What are your current top 5 designs and lengths? I'm on an inland lake, so it's hard to justify anything above ~30 feet as we just don't get enough wind and we're forever tacking on limited waterway. On the coast, I'd love to sail something in the 35-40 range, but those things will run you quite a few clams. _________________ Neil Quigley
Ericson 32-2 'Molto Bene'
Knoxville, TN
(ex - F235 #252 'Traveler') |
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Brad Leslie 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 1088 Location: Rappahannock River/Middle Chesapeake
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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nquigley wrote: | Brad Leslie wrote: | Checking this boat out and looking at others recently has pushed me over the edge and I am now looking for a larger boat. I am a little tired of bumbing my head.
We are going to Grip Fast tomorrow morning to spend the weekend and think it over, but we have pretty much decided to sell and move up this fall. There are three boats I am going to look at over the next few weeks for a start. Who knows where this will end, but there are some very nice boats for sale now. |
What size range are you thinking about? What are your current top 5 designs and lengths? I'm on an inland lake, so it's hard to justify anything above ~30 feet as we just don't get enough wind and we're forever tacking on limited waterway. On the coast, I'd love to sail something in the 35-40 range, but those things will run you quite a few clams. |
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I am thinking 28 to 30 feet. I do like the idea of the 285. Particularly because mike and others has posted so much information about it here. It offers kind of support group for taking care of the items that go wrong with a 20+ year old sailboat. It also can be placed on my trailer with a few mods like fixing the brakes and adding a few braces. That give me a little more freedom to change locations. I am not saying its trailerable in the same sense the 235's are but its possible without involing a boat mover. Anything much bigger than a 285 will not work like that.
There are other old boats I have seen on line that I would like to see in person. The F281 and the F305 are interesting, but the 285 seams to use the space better and looks like a better made boat to me.I have been on several Hunters and Catalina's made in the late 1990's, I just didnt think they were as well made as our 235's.
There is a Oceans 311 at Kentucky Lake that I will look at but its really out of my price range. I could do it, and I have proabably done dummer things, but I still have my last two in college:(
If were dreaming, I was on the new 31 at last years boat show and I would really like that!
What boats do you dream about?
Anyone else care to opine about that? _________________ Brad Leslie
89 Wing #251, Gigi
PO of Grip Fast, 87 Fin #92
PO of Sun King, 89 F285, #166
PO of Sojorn, 93 F210, #76
04 361, Grip Fast |
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nquigley Skipper
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 1844 Location: Concord YC, Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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have a look at the Cal 28 (1980s models - not the earlier model). I've sailed on one at our club - good sailer and very well designed and equipped - not many boats under 30 feet with a double-spreader rig!
http://www.grantdailey.com/Cal.html _________________ Neil Quigley
Ericson 32-2 'Molto Bene'
Knoxville, TN
(ex - F235 #252 'Traveler') |
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Frodo I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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The 265 is... in my opinion, UGLY, but it does have the headroom you're looking for with the trailerability. If you're willing to forgo the trailer... a Pearson (Commander for daysailing/racing through a 30 for cruisiing) is a good boat. well built, fairly bulletproof, and enough around that you won't need to break the bank for the boat, or parts. Our 285 would be nice if you can find one in the pricerange, but traierability with any bigger cruising boat is... iffy.
If you're really looking...check out C&Cs in the mid 20s-low 30s... Well built, fast, and nice below.
I will say, if you're looking for innovation you won't find more than we have here.
-Fro _________________ ~Frodo
Crescent Yacht Club
4-Play...for now, Crush...(when we get the graphics changed) it'll go with Squirt, our sailing dinghy!
1988, #129 Wing Keel
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mike Graduated to First 285
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 6252 Location: Chesapeake Bay (Bodkin Creek, MD)
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
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A friend of mine has a 281. If you ever have a need to ask questions about one I am sure he would be happy to chat about his boat. _________________ Mike Hayden
'89 F285 WK, Hull #127 s/v Enchanté
'89 F235 WK, Hull #253 s/v Windependent my ex |
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I actually made an offer on a catalina 30 the other day. don't think they are going to take it though... They guy thinks a little more of his boat than it is really worth and isn't under any pressure to sell.
We are still looking for a bigger boat to live on.. If I could have gotten the Catalina at the price I wanted it would have made a good intermediate boat for a couple years so that zsanic could get used to handling a larger boat and it would have work for us to live on it part time up near her school.
I was pretty amazed at the amount of room in the Catalina though... _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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Pat Turner 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Brookville Lake, Ind.
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a pretty boat but it is a little smaller in size and much pricier than we are looking at right now. As we continue not to find a boat we want the boat buying fund increases and we look at slightly more expensive boats.
I was just looking at a 32ft Beneteau Evasion.. Pilot house Ketch rig with a cutaway full keel.. its a late 70's early 80's design out of the france plant.
rather radical design for Beneteau... anyone ever sailed on one of them? _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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Brad Leslie 1000 posts? Man Overboard!
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 1088 Location: Rappahannock River/Middle Chesapeake
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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nquigley wrote: | have a look at the Cal 28 (1980s models - not the earlier model). I've sailed on one at our club - good sailer and very well designed and equipped - not many boats under 30 feet with a double-spreader rig!
http://www.grantdailey.com/Cal.html |
That is a very nice looking boat. I will check one out if I get a chance. _________________ Brad Leslie
89 Wing #251, Gigi
PO of Grip Fast, 87 Fin #92
PO of Sun King, 89 F285, #166
PO of Sojorn, 93 F210, #76
04 361, Grip Fast |
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audeojude I've lost my Babystay!
Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 2006 Location: Conway, SC
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I like the layout on the cal... they did a lot with the space they had. It looks bigger than you would expect inside _________________ Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC |
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