Beneteau First 235 Forums

Gary · Newbie Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

For Sale, 1987 235 first, fin keel, it was dismasted by hurricane Wilma. She has some abrasions (gell goat only) on the left front of the boat from the waterline to the toe rail. The left toe rail will need to be replaced as will the stansions, bow and stern pulpit. It will need a new mast and rigging.

The boat has a large inventory of very nice sails, the boom, spinaker pole, auto pilot, radio and much more.

The trailer is in good shape, new tires. The boat is Miami on the trailer and is ready for transport.

$3,800. as is. Please call 419-344-3391

Jon · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject:

actually this would be the perfect boat for Jake, he could forgo the toerail replacement & just roll finish the hull deck joint, order up a new dual spreader carbon mast.

I would like to hear more about this boat with a inventory list of sails & some pictures.

The trailer & keel are worth more than $3800
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Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex

Lake Ontario NY

Gary · Newbie Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

There are (2) full sets of sails, 1 are the old ones, the ones I always used because I wanted to save the newer ones. I will will just discuss the excellent sails, an almost new main with rope, (not cars), a very nice 1,2 & 3, an ok Spinaker (I never flew it).

I would be glad to send you pictures of before and after, email me @ skyyking@prodigy.net and I'll forward them to you. I don't know how to post them here on this forum, technically impaired.

Also very import to note this boat spent the last 11 years in Michigan, I moved it here for the winter. I left Michigan to get out of the bad weather. Point is the boat was in good shape.

I bought a new Beneteau 323 and take delivery this week and the insurance just settled with me. I would like it off the yacht club as soon as possible. The motor, a new 4 hp merc. is optional ($750.) with maybe 5 hours on it.

This is truly a blow out price, I've heard of people paying that much for a trailer.

Thanks for your inquiry.

abstrait · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:23 am Post subject:

Send me the pics. I'll help you sell her.

kh
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Kelly Holsten ï¿½ abstrait
'89 "clear" WK | Hull #327
www.beneteau235.com

Jon · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:

lets go, get the pics up.....
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Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex

Lake Ontario NY

Jake · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject:

Hey, that would be a great project boat for us, or someone I know who is looking. I'll pass on the word. However... If you are willing to part out, I'd love to make an offer on the trailer and some of the newer sails. The trailer. Would you be willing to part with the trailer if you found someone to take the boat without it? I either need to find one, or have one made, but I have got to have one. Where is the boat in Miami? Can I come see it? When? Is their a Pi r2 in our future?
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Jake LaRue
former owner and enabler for
s/v Pi, FK, #76

Live Slow, Sail Fast

Michael Garman · Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: Trailer

Sounds like PI will be travelling. Planning on campaigning her?
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Wing Keel
Hull Identification Number: BEY1A299J889

Gary · Newbie Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

The boat is at the Miami Yacht Club on the trailer. I would just like to move it as soon as possible. I don't know how to post the pictures on this forum, if someone could tell me I'd be glad.

Jon · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject:

Jake · Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject:

nquigley · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:37 am Post subject:

Blown Away · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:12 am Post subject:

Gary · Newbie Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

I thought I 'd let you know that I posted it on Ebay for auction. Thanks for your interest.

nquigley · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: listed on ebay

audeojude · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: listed on ebay

wgnorth · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:

I found it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Beneteau-235-First-Hurrican-damage-w-trailer_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63730QQitemZ4599082973QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Trailer is a single axle setup with pads for the keel. Someone is going to get a good deal.
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1992 Fin #424
s/v Pretty Baby

Jon · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:46 am Post subject:

quote from ebay:

audeojude · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:05 am Post subject:

just because it spent 11 years in michigan doesnt mean it couldn't have been in ohio lately :) lol
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Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC

Jon · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:10 am Post subject:

audeojude · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:26 am Post subject:

lol the point being that you see the opportunity to start some shit flying :) ive seen how you work :) lol you just find something that can be commented on or taken more than one way and then drop a little lets get it started comment... and then see what happens :) I can just see you now.... cackling in glee, a manic light in your eyes reflected from your monitor..... as you stir the pot to see what will bubble forth :)

hheheeehheheh
damn did I just call the loon a witch?

hmmmm... well i guess its a pc age.. guys can be witches to... or you can sue the witches association for discrimination..

ok.... i need to go find something to do. lol... I have way to much time on my hands if im now starting shit... :) lol

merry christmass jon :) EG
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Scott Carle
Sea Puppy
Hull # 27
Wing Keel
Conway, SC

Jon · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:32 am Post subject:

abstrait · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject:

In defense of the owner of the boat, there is a way that both parts of the story can indeed be true. I'm sure he will weigh in here on the matter. The answer is probably just more details on how both states can exist in the mix.

I've had a few emails in my box regarding the worth of this F235. A lot depending on what can be salvaged and if you can do your own work. For sure, the initial price will come in well below the average cost of a used F235. Getting a trailer in the mix is a definite plus. Of course, there is always a rub, and as par for the course for such projects, it's very easy to have the costs and time escalate into a figure that would equal finding a used F235 with minimal work. On the other hand, if one has connections and takes the time to price out the exact parts needed and his/her labor involved, it could come in at some significant savings. Plopping the boat at a boat yard with no "inside" connections and asking for it to be brought to "cherry" would result in a bill that might horrify.

Factor in the mast (plus or minus parts from the old), standing rigging, toe rail, bow pulpit, port stern pushpit, glass work, touch up painting, stanchions, etc. As was mentioned by another members, some custom shops might be able to beat the prices on the railing work. I would go ahead and make a four legged pulpit if starting from scratch, this to allow a better furling option.

The parts alone are somewhere in the figure below, plus or minus some additions, this from a basic observation from afar.

- Z-190 Mast: $1308.00 w/everything less standing rigging and halyards (US Spars)
- Standing Rigging: @$300-330 (Secosouth)
- stanchion: 48.78 x 2-3
- chainplate forestay: 40.66
- Bow Rail: 426.08
- Stern Rail: 610.33
- Fairlead Moor: 64.85
- Toe Rail: 648.79
- Lifelines - @$150
- Glass/epoxy/resin - depends
- Paint - Depends on choices
- all the othe junk that pops up -????

@ $3700-4200 plus shipping in parts if bought from stock sources, this without any labor included.

kh
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Kelly Holsten ï¿½ abstrait
'89 "clear" WK | Hull #327
www.beneteau235.com

Jon · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject:

good info! good post.

the point I was trying to make would be that misinformation from the seller would equate to barganing chips if a deal was going down other than ebay.

even with the price of parts needed I am sure someone is going to get a deal,
If that person is able to do the work themselves that would be better.
That will equal a owner who loves thier boat!

hope someone around here gets it.
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Jon
85' Laser 28 #167*Pandora*
87' F235 WK #69 my ex

Lake Ontario NY

Gary · Newbie Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

Ok, you got me there, but I can explain it. My slip is in Lassalle, MI at the Toledo Beach marine, 7 miles across the border from Toledo, OH. When someone asks me where I'm from I always say Toledo because it's easier than explaning I'm 7 miles north of Michigan at the Toledo Beach Marina in Lassalle, MI.

I did go through Toledo, OH on it's way down to Florida, I think I've got that state right. Phew. Any other questions?

Thanks for your support in this I just need to move the boat from the club, it's loaded on the trailer ready to go.

Merry Christmas

Gary · Newbie Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 7

Thanks for your interest. Happy Holidays